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Can you recommend a book or books for an amateur historian on middle Bronze Age (2000 BC) Mesopotamia ships/boats?
Great question that I, unfortunately, don’t have a great answer for. I never found a single source that covered that period and place in depth. The sources I’ve got listed for Episodes 002 & 003 may be a good place to start.
In particular, Lincoln Paine’s book is a good overview. In addition, books by Lionel Casson are also great overviews even if they’re slightly outdated. An super-detailed look at the archaeology can be found in Sean McGrail’s “Boats of the World: From the Stone Age to Medieval Times.” I took a lot of info from that book and would recommend it for a non-narrative view, but it’s quite pricey. Perhaps try a university library for that one. Hope those provide somewhat of a helpful start.
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Dear Brandon, When was the first time when pulleys or blocks and tackle were used on ships ? I have looked for thirty years, but no luck. I know the Greeks had them. Best regards, Shedrick Moore
Hi Shedrick, thanks for the question. I’ll do my best to give a moderately useful answer, but evidence for the earliest use of inventions like this is always hard to pin down.
You’re certainly right to point out that the Greeks had them, and it’s possible that they weren’t used much on ships prior to the time of Archimedes (287–212 BCE), since Plutarch gives that great story about him easily pulling a ship in Syracuse with the use of a pulley system, the implication being that this system was little known or used in the years prior.
I personally haven’t seen indications that pulleys or blocks-and-tackle were used prior to the Greeks, although there is much evidence of their use on Roman ships. Egyptian ship depictions and boat models all seem to indicate square-sail use with simple rope rigging and no use of pulleys in the set-up, so far as I can tell, and in the most comprehensive books I’ve used (written by Seán McGrail), there is merely a statement that in Egyptian ships “block and tackle are not illustrated.”
My understanding is that prior to the Greek adoption of block-and-tackle uses, which probably didn’t become widespread and prevalent until in later Roman times, ships used the simple system of running ropes through rings sewn into the bottom edge of the sail and then over top of the yard itself, so pulling on multiple ropes would simply raise or lower the sail. My most recent study focused on the reconstruction of the trireme Olympias, and this simple rigging system was the one they adopted based on a study of classical Greek triremes. All that to say, that even in Greek triremes it’s possible that no blocks-and-tackle were used and that similar systems were used in Egyptian ships and (most likely) in Phoenician ships as well.
I hope that is a sufficient answer for now! I will certainly keep this topic in mind though as I continue to read up on maritime history, so I’ll get in touch again should I stumble across information that may be relevant 😉 Thanks for listening, Shedrick. Fair winds.
Brandon I admire your work,and wish to connect with your work. I can help as follows
As prv President of the Egyptian Sailing Federation
As connected to the Ministry of Antiquites
As the founder and responsble for the Program TECHNOLOGY weekly Ch2 EGY TV
Researched ,prepared and presented numerous maritime episodes mostly Egypt
From Hatchepsut to min of the Desert…..
Visited Wady el Gawasis, Safaga,Koseir sakara, etc
Pls sugest how we cancooperate on a technical Basis
Hello Brandon,
I have a strange and specific question and I hope you can help answer or at least point me in a direction to find an answer.
I am trying to find out the cost of different ships of war in Britain in the early 1800’s specifically of a “fir” or softwood brig built in a merchant yard in England.
The only things I have found are a few ships of the line in 1700’s costing between £33,000 and 70,000, and a 36 gun frigate in the early 1700’s costing £8200.
Hello Erin!
Apologies for the delayed response on this awesome question. I can’t say that I know these types of figures from previous reading, but I will do some digging and see if I can find a rough figure and perhaps some source material that may be helpful for you 🙂 I’ll get back to you in less time than this comment has taken!
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